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As this excerpt from the WSJ

Savage Guy — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:42:59 -0500

As this excerpt from the WSJ shows, and as we have long known, when it comes to the environment, Al Gore says "do as I say, not as I do". How inconvenient.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121400301547793343.html?mod=opinion_jour...

More roadblocks by the U.S.

Savage Guy — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:20:52 -0500

More roadblocks by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to refinery expansion compliments of radical environmental groups. Thank you Sierra Club and American Bottom Conservancy for doing your part to keep gas at or near $4 per gallon!

From an article at dowjones.com.

Conoco Refinery Expansion Is Set Back
EPA Appeals Board
Rejects Air Permits
For Illinois Project

By JESSICA RESNICK-AULT and SUSAN DAKER
June 9, 2008; Page B3

Plans to expand an Illinois refinery have hit a stumbling block because of rejection of key air permits by a board of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

The Illinois EPA had given the Wood River project a green light, but last Thursday, the federal EPA's Environmental Appeals Board sent the decision back to the Illinois agency. The appeals board was acting on a petition by the American Bottom Conservancy, an environmental group, and the Illinois chapter of the Sierra Club.

The plant expansion in Roxana, Ill., is part of a joint effort by ConocoPhillips and EnCana Corp. to increase the volume of heavy Canadian crude that can be processed in the U.S.

"We're reviewing it and assessing what we need to do next," Bill Graham, a spokesman for ConocoPhillips, said of the appeals board's action. An EnCana spokesman referred questions to ConocoPhillips, the plant's operator.

Jill Watson, a spokeswoman for the Illinois EPA, said her understanding is that the EPA appeals board decided against the permit because ConocoPhillips didn't propose using the best available technology for reducing emissions. Ms. Watson said the Illinois EPA is still reviewing the decision, and it plans to respond.

Mr. Graham, however, said the company was installing "state-of-the-art technology at the refinery that will significantly reduce air emissions, including a 95% reduction in sulfur dioxide and a 25% reduction in nitrogen oxides."

The Wood River expansion efforts have become a target for critics of allegedly lax permitting on refinery expansion in the upper Midwest. One of the critics, the National Resource Defense Council, has been an advocate in requiring more stringent regulation at the plant. The nonprofit group is also leading the effort to require stricter monitoring at a BP PLC refinery in Indiana.

Mr. Graham of ConocoPhillips said it is unclear how far the appeals board's decision will push back the project's completion date.

The two companies formed a joint venture in 2006 in which ConocoPhillips took over a portion of Encana's Canadian production assets and Encana took a 50% stake in two of ConocoPhillips's U.S. refineries.

The venture aimed to increase volumes of Canadian crude at the two refineries from 60,000 barrels a day to more than 500,000 barrels a day by 2015. ConocoPhillips said the Wood River project was valued at more than $4 billion when first announced.

--HyunYoung Lee contributed to this article

Write to Jessica Resnick-Ault at jessica.resnick-ault@dowjones.com

Defending the use of racial

Right Is Wrong — Sun, 18 May 2008 16:45:46 -0500

Defending the use of racial slurs? And here I thought I had heard it all...

So Obama should apologize

Mark Nesvig — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:41:58 -0500

So Obama should apologize for something Rev. Wright said? Did McCain apologize for what pastor Hagee said? No, he didn't. In fact, McCain said he still welcomes and accepts Hagee's endorsement.

Then you have never been

Savage Guy — Wed, 14 May 2008 13:25:59 -0500

Then you have never been tortured or almost killed. McCain has experienced those things and he said what he said. He apologized for what he said..........just like Rev. Hagee............but unlike Rev. Wright. Seems that the Republicans know how to apologize while the Democrats have a hard time finding it in their heart to do so. I guess that would take humility, something in short supply where Obama, Clinton and Wright are concerned.

I would call them torturers,

Mark Nesvig — Wed, 14 May 2008 13:06:32 -0500

I would call them torturers, killers, sadistic, evil, etc. I would not use the word he used. I don't think anyone should for any reason whatsoever, especially someone running for president of the United States. But if you don't have a problem with it, I guess that's your prerogative.

If someone captured you,

Savage Guy — Wed, 14 May 2008 11:22:36 -0500

If someone captured you, tortured you, and you thought they were going to kill you, what would you call them? I know what I would call them. You apparently have a halo over your head.

McCain survived the Hanoi Hilton and went on to live a very productive life and is a candidate for the President of the United States. I think that says a lot about him.

No, I don't suspect anything

Mark Nesvig — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:55:24 -0500

No, I don't suspect anything will change who you'll vote for, and that's fine. But I'm just curious: How do you feel about McCain's use of racial slurs when referring to his captors during Vietnam? He, of course, apologized for his remarks after quite a bit of political pressure, but I think those comments, which he made more than once, tell you a lot about a person.

McCain outlined a plan of

Savage Guy — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:42:03 -0500

McCain outlined a plan of action regarding global warming just as he is outlining plans of action on a number of issues that are part of the debate in a presidential election year. I don't agree with all of his positions and global warming happens to be one of them. Doesn't change who I will vote for in November.

Expressing concern? Well, he

Mark Nesvig — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:22:59 -0500

Expressing concern? Well, he did more than that. He outlined a whole plan of action.

No, he's expressing concern

Savage Guy — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:19:52 -0500

No, he's expressing concern about an issue that is of concern to a lot of people. He is recognizing the elephant in the room. He's a politician. What do you expect?!?

I don't agree with everything McCain believes but I believe he is the better candidate for president regardless of whether he is facing Obama or Clinton.

So he's lying about his

Mark Nesvig — Wed, 14 May 2008 08:29:08 -0500

So he's lying about his beliefs to get votes? Is that what you're saying? I just want to be sure I understand your position here.

McCain has to talk about

Savage Guy — Wed, 14 May 2008 08:14:19 -0500

McCain has to talk about global warming (now actually more commonly referred to as climate change because the temperature inconveniently didn't go up the last time they measured it) because he is running for president and this issue is important to a lot of people. His statement sounds like something a politician from either major party would say. Not really very surprising considering he is running for president.

Even John McCain is on

Mark Nesvig — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:45:22 -0500

Even John McCain is on board, as per his quotes from yesterday:

"Instead of idly debating the precise extent of global warming, or the precise time line of global warming, we need to deal with the central facts of rising temperatures, rising waters, and all the endless troubles that global warming will bring," McCain said. "We stand warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time is short and the dangers are great. The most relevant question now is whether our own government is equal to the challenge."

As this Wall Street Journal

Savage Guy — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:04:39 -0500

As this Wall Street Journal opinion piece points out, there is a cost to reducing carbon emissions. Not to say that we should not reduce emissions, but let's be honest about the cost.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120934459094348617.html?mod=opinion_main...

Do you REALLY want to stop Global Warming??

RandolphEmily — Wed, 09 May 2007 12:36:40 -0500

There are many things you can do to help put a stop to Global Warming. 5 things we can ALL do: